Choppa or Hammerer

[hexxvoid]

This has likely been mentioned elsewhere, but if I could cast your minds back to the announcement that the Black Guard and KotBS would be returning Mark Jacobs also mentioned the Hammerer and the Choppa by saying:

"well, one of them we hope to put back in. I can't tell you which yet, that's a surprise. We're probably going to be replacing one and putting in another class in its place. But we'll be talking about that in a few months."

I'm just wondering, has there been any further updates/speculation on which class we won't be seeing? Although I play a Goblin I'm a diehard Dwarf fan and I know our numbers are limited so I'm of the opinion that the Hammerer won't be coming back due to not wanting to upset the huge following the Choppa seems to have.

Of course, if the Hammerer is dropped in favour of a Slayer type class - that'd be perfect

[Azyriel]

My bet is Ranger or Miner.

[Taea]

With the giving of hammers to the Ironbreaker, my guess is that the Dwarf class will not be Hammerer.

[Erb]

Originally Posted by Azyriel

My bet is Ranger or Miner.

Miner = Sapper?

WHFRP had a Dwarf Tunnel Fighter class which I used to like a lot. Heavy armoured, up in yer face butchers. Would again be too much like the IBs though I feel.

You almost know Mythic are gonna do the "...we listened to our customers and gave them what they wanted!!" bit. Too good a PR coup for them not to! Slayer ftw.

[SirRobin]

I think we'll get the Choppa and, instead of the Hammerer, the Slayer.

Originally the Slayer was on tap to be the Dwarf melee dps career. Due to unexplained reasons, many suspected population balance concerns due to the very popular Slayer, that role was switched to the Hammerer.

Many fans believe that with Ironbreakers getting hammers it means the Hammerer is done for and Mythic is switching back to their original plans to use the Slayer.

Personally, I would love to get these careers back but I hope Mythic is placing greater priority on putting the four cut capitols back in. Their absence has been felt greater than the cut melee dps careers.

[Erb]

Yeah, your musing on why the Slayer was cut for the Hammerer is prolly right on the money. My bet, is that the class cuts were going to happen anyway. Get enough Order/Dwarfs to T4 and epic'd then introduce the Slayer as a "TaDaaaaa!" moment. Giving up epics for many is a tough thing to do. There will be thousands of Slayer alts rolled though. If it ever happens, I expect all Slayer T1 PQs and Scenarios!

[Vancomycin]

I'm thinking slayer as well. There are already slayer NPCs in the game, but I haven't seen any hammerers yet.

[slothmonster]

I thought the reasoning behind not having slayers is because their whole purpose in life was to get killed.

I second the notion that they need to be working on the other capitol cities. My shaman would be so happy to see a giant greenskin city.

[Erb]

Originally Posted by slothmonster

I thought the reasoning behind not having slayers is because their whole purpose in life was to get killed.

I second the notion that they need to be working on the other capitol cities. My shaman would be so happy to see a giant greenskin city.

Re Slayers: no, that was just a musing by one or two on the forums. To die gloriously therefore restoring honour to the clan name and saving further generations from shame is what the slayer is largely about. Ongoing arguments as to why or why not to have them, read the hundreds of posts

Re Cities: I'm in 2 minds. Part of me loves the idea of having a "home." A place where races can chew the fat and build that sense of community. I would still love to see Guilds named after warbands or cults in game, like the "Snakebites" and "Bad Moons" etc. Seeing a see of green or warped faces would be awesome, as would mini dwarf armies and the like.

The other part of me feels that the game just isn't big enough atm to have this exculsivity. Guilds need to be multi-cultural just to get the numbers and the balance with lack of certain racial classes. Cities would also be even more desoloate on all but the highest pop servers.

EDIT: Evil Moons - Bad Moons was the 40K version. /facepalm

[Edge2k2]

On slayers.... they are not completely suicidal. They are so hell-bent on restoring their lost honor that they will take on anything! However, they know that dieing in a meaningly zerg will not restore their honor.

I think with the way the majority of people gravitated to destruction, a slayer would be a very nice edition to Order and a boost to their population. I for one would definitely roll one.