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Old 03-28-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default How long can the Herald of Xotli be in the Xotli form?

There is this rumour going on the official aoc forum that a dev. have stated that the HoX can only be in the Xotli form for 20 seconds, what can you say about this?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:54 AM   #2
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There is this rumour going on the official aoc forum that a dev. have stated that the HoX can only be in the Xotli form for 20 seconds, what can you say about this?
It is true that recently the Herald of Xotli was changed from being in his form always to a short duration "super buff" this is because Heralds never got to see their character and their armor and items etc while being polymorphed. The transformation has much more impact now as a short duration buff and is quite powerful. It is also on a relatively short cooldown.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:02 PM   #3
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Thanks for the information!

It is a great choice to allow for the time to switch between the forms as a balancing issue.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:58 PM   #4
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am i right to assume the HoX is to semi replace a normal tank class for Stygians? as they get no native soldier archetype.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:17 AM   #5
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I doubt that they wil be able to tank, at best maybe take damage a little longer if they grab aggro than the other mages. The nationalities aren't designed to be able to effectively group with only people from their nation, which isn't a big deal since you will be able to group freely with any one in the game. The only problem I see are guilds that try to roleplay single nationality guilds.
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I would perfer a form that lasted a bit more then 20 or 30 seconds.... I certainly don't mind a time limit.... but why so short? (assuming it is something like 20 or 30 seconds).... Why not let last a minute or two? Or untill combat is over with? and then increase the timer a bit to make people use the demon form more tactically (rather then RELYING on it).... that way it's a good "oh crap those mobs are gonna be tough" or "oh crap those mobs are TOUGHER then I thought" button..... or if your in a raid and things start going badly, push the button, transform into a kick butt demon to even the odds for a bit.

Or perhaps they can make it sorta like a rage thing, but instead of just getting mad it has to do with enemies you've slain? (as a tribute to the demon you've maken a pact with?) so that a "meter" fills up and when it's full you can unleash the demon by letting him "possess" you. Dunno, just throwing stuff out there... just saying I think a very short timer will be more annoying then helpful/cool. I mean it takes a bit of time to transform I would assume.... if it took 5-10 seconds just to transform, and it only lasts for 20 seconds, is it really worth it? Could you have done the same amount of damage by that time without transforming? (after you both transform, fight in demon, then transform back)
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:50 AM   #7
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I would perfer a form that lasted a bit more then 20 or 30 seconds.... I certainly don't mind a time limit.... but why so short? (assuming it is something like 20 or 30 seconds).... Why not let last a minute or two? Or untill combat is over with? and then increase the timer a bit to make people use the demon form more tactically (rather then RELYING on it).... that way it's a good "oh crap those mobs are gonna be tough" or "oh crap those mobs are TOUGHER then I thought" button..... or if your in a raid and things start going badly, push the button, transform into a kick butt demon to even the odds for a bit.

Or perhaps they can make it sorta like a rage thing, but instead of just getting mad it has to do with enemies you've slain? (as a tribute to the demon you've maken a pact with?) so that a "meter" fills up and when it's full you can unleash the demon by letting him "possess" you. Dunno, just throwing stuff out there... just saying I think a very short timer will be more annoying then helpful/cool. I mean it takes a bit of time to transform I would assume.... if it took 5-10 seconds just to transform, and it only lasts for 20 seconds, is it really worth it? Could you have done the same amount of damage by that time without transforming? (after you both transform, fight in demon, then transform back)
I agree....

20 seconds will be way too short....
A couple of minutes will be good....

But does this transformation has a long cooldown?
How long will it be?
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:31 PM   #8
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I would perfer a form that lasted a bit more then 20 or 30 seconds.... I certainly don't mind a time limit.... but why so short? (assuming it is something like 20 or 30 seconds).... Why not let last a minute or two? Or untill combat is over with? and then increase the timer a bit to make people use the demon form more tactically (rather then RELYING on it).... that way it's a good "oh crap those mobs are gonna be tough" or "oh crap those mobs are TOUGHER then I thought" button..... or if your in a raid and things start going badly, push the button, transform into a kick butt demon to even the odds for a bit.

Or perhaps they can make it sorta like a rage thing, but instead of just getting mad it has to do with enemies you've slain? (as a tribute to the demon you've maken a pact with?) so that a "meter" fills up and when it's full you can unleash the demon by letting him "possess" you. Dunno, just throwing stuff out there... just saying I think a very short timer will be more annoying then helpful/cool. I mean it takes a bit of time to transform I would assume.... if it took 5-10 seconds just to transform, and it only lasts for 20 seconds, is it really worth it? Could you have done the same amount of damage by that time without transforming? (after you both transform, fight in demon, then transform back)
I concur as well. 20 seconds is way too short. 1 minute or 2 should not make that much of a difference i would think.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:07 PM   #9
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I agree....

20 seconds will be way too short....
A couple of minutes will be good....

But does this transformation has a long cooldown?
How long will it be?
athelon said
The transformation has much more impact now as a short duration buff and is quite powerful. It is also on a relatively short cooldown.


so im sure it wont be a long cooldown time and for such a powerfull buff it will be worthwild i will try it out for certain.
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #10
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The transformation has much more impact now as a short duration buff and is quite powerful. It is also on a relatively short cooldown.


so im sure it wont be a long cooldown time and for such a powerfull buff it will be worthwild i will try it out for certain.
Thanks for informing me ;P

This discussion has made me want to be a herald of xotli

The problem now is that I can't decide :S

Ranger, herald of xotli or demonologist?
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