The Rage Rumor

[RadarX]

It's all I heard about in General chat for like 3 days so I bring it you, those in the know. What I'm looking to establish is either fact or reasonable conjecture surrounding a nerf. If you want to debate the need, we've got a thread for that and I'll even join you.

Ok we know for fact the tooltip is incorrect because the test notes say so. Where are people getting this "Rage is going to 25% at pump 5?"

So what have you heard and what have you seen?

Edit: We had confirmation from NCsoft about this in the form of a Weekend Wrapup. I've got an editorial up describing the changes.

[Nassir]

Originally Posted by RadarX

It's all I heard about in General chat for like 3 days so I bring it you, those in the know. What I'm looking to establish is either fact or reasonable conjecture surrounding a nerf. If you want to debate the need, we've got a thread for that and I'll even join you.

Ok we know for fact the tooltip is incorrect because the test notes say so. Where are people getting this "Rage is going to 25% at pump 5?"

So what have you heard and what have you seen?

Its on the tooltip on test center as the tool tip on live is incorrect they fix the tooltip but also decieded to nerf it..

so pump 1 is 5% pump 2 is 10% pump 3 is 15% pump 4 is 20% pump 5 is 25%

pump 1 and pump 2 well be useless as you well actually lose DPS cause of casting time, pump 3 well be ok but only if you have firearms 5, pump 4 is the best option but again only on long firing weapons ie chainguns, swords and staffs all other weapons well see little or no benfit from it... pump 5 becomes a skillpoint sink...

[RadarX]

Ok so you've seen this on Test? I personally haven't had time to patch it and look.

[Nassir]

Originally Posted by RadarX

Ok so you've seen this on Test? I personally haven't had time to patch it and look.

Yes I have, and tested it as of right now the nerf didnt hit the patch(as stated by a dev but the tooltip did) but I and a buddy mostly him did the math of the test results agaist the stated values.. if the values are indeed the values that are set too go into the live game..

the numbers were clear rage 4(my personal opinion is rage 3 is better investment) if your going to use chainguns, staffs, swords,flamethrowers.

dont waste points in rage if your using slow fire long reload weapons ie shotguns, launchers,netguns, or rifles..pistols will benfit but only if you have firearms 5 for reload times.

[RadarX]

So basically we are talking about a 75% reduction across the board for each pump?

Are they changing something else like the cost or duration?

[Nassir]

Originally Posted by RadarX

So basically we are talking about a 75% reduction across the board for each pump?

Are they changing something else like the cost or duration?

same cost same duration

[Ironarm]

Guess I will level my spec.....

[RadarX]

I'm going to reserve my judgement until it hits Test. It's hard to say how it'll affect combat until they are getting actual data from it. There is still time for them to change their minds also.

[Kremlik]

been running the numbers mysellf and TBH if weapons are used 'correctly' ie using zoom and crouch with those giving added bonuses when used yea there will be a diffrence but not really as 'game breaking' as players claim..

Only weapons that don't gain the stance bonuses will imo lose out (such as shotguns/staves/blades).. which then you can't go about with JUST rage 5 spamming the shotgun or 1-hitting with blades, which I think is the main complaint from some players really whom TBH aren't ever happy without a 'I win' button/build..

For the more mature thinking players this 'nerf' if it ever really hits wont make that much difference it'll just mean we'll have to use the other things given to us as well as what we've got already..

[Ironarm]

I hope is isn't as bad as it seems. Us spy types depend on our so called "I win" button to be able to kill groups without getting owned in 30 seconds.