Jedi in SWG?

Cody Bye · 06-13-2007, 03:17 PM

First, read this article.

Do Jedi truly have a place in the SWG timeline? Should there be more of an emphasis on Jedi...being a Jedi and the problems that occur with it?

I personally think Jedi don't belong in the timeline - but I'm a pretty strict Star Wars lore monkey. I don't like to see Jedi running around at all, and the post-NGE SWG just has WAY too many of them.

Xebek · 06-13-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Micajah

First, read this article.

Do Jedi truly have a place in the SWG timeline? Should there be more of an emphasis on Jedi...being a Jedi and the problems that occur with it?

I personally think Jedi don't belong in the timeline - but I'm a pretty strict Star Wars lore monkey. I don't like to see Jedi running around at all, and the post-NGE SWG just has WAY too many of them.

SWG-NGE is not for Starwars lore fans... its for the 12year old kids who want to be a jedi because they are cool in the movies... Pre-cu was great, Jedi were rare and the game was more about the Starwars world then the Starwars movies...

Darke · 06-20-2007, 05:57 AM

I agree with Xebex. According to the timeline of the game...Jedi should be underground or non exsistent. Of course the game could be a whole 'what if' scenario. Still, you can't swing a dead mynock in the game without hitting a jedi player character.

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Akaara · 07-05-2007, 09:48 PM

I am not a kid and I still love being a Jedi in SWG, I love it even more because I was a pre-NGE jedi and automatically got to level 90 when NGE hit...

Mikes · 07-06-2007, 02:25 AM

If i remember rightly, one in every thousand copies of SwG came with a code to give the player access to become a jedi, pre NGC. Is that right?

Also: Bounty Hunter > Jedi. Who's with me!

skyehawk · 07-06-2007, 02:40 AM

there you unlearned your skills to become Jedi.

Spare · 07-06-2007, 10:20 AM

The stages of Jedi in SWG

Jedi did not enter the game until Publish 9. It was not in game when it was launched. I have a link somehwere which is the history of jedi in SWG. I will see if I can find it but this is what I remember.

Holo Grind - This was how you unlocked jedi with Publish 9. You got a holocron and mastered professions it told you or something until you unlocked.

The Village - THe village came out and was a very fun area. Players became Force Sensitive by doing a combination of Points of Intrests and Badges when they unlocked the old man came for you and sent you to the village.

In the village you had 4 phases and had to do one mission each phase and unlock the ability to train. You needed 6 of these missions done to unlock all the trees needed to start the trials.

Each tree took like 1,250,000 Force Sensitive XP and you got this XP by converting XP to Force Sensitive XP. The transfer rates varied but most weapon XP was 30 to 1 and combat xp was 3 to 1. Then you took all this xp and went to Peamos (Elder Jedi will understand

) and watched all this xp go from alot to very little hehe. Rinse repeat until trials and exit quest.

Jedi in SWG was a very hard thing to do. It was an achivement in itself but mainly because you had the drive to sit at a PC and grind. If you are a person who loves grinding XP this system was for you.

NGE - Jedi became a starting profesison

Thats pretty much a recap on the SWG Jedi system. I started SWG in Sept 04just as the village replaced the Holo grind so I did not get jedi dreams until Feb 05 and unlocked Sept 05.

I will never forget that feeling I got when I meditated infront of the force shrine and got my force bar. Memories

Spare · 07-06-2007, 10:35 AM

As I stated in the article Jedi are still around in this time line but I will say SWG does not do a very good job of capturing the fear a Jedi would have in this period.

If you use the movies as a guide with this game then Mando Armor and Jetpacks should be removed because the whole reason Boba Fett was a bad mofo was because he had that armor.

If you look back through the expanded universe and some of the stories out there is some much Jedi activity in this time period but does not focus on Luke. Darth is hatching plans to overthrow the emperor and takes a apprentice. Mara Jade is running around at this point as well who is the emperors hand.

Obi-Wan and Yoda attacked the Jedi temple to keep other jedi from returning. I saw somewhere that there were like 2,000 jedi left when the Anakin turned. We saw the council get tooled down who were the elite jedi. What chance did the other jedi have against Vader and the Emperor? They would have went into hiding and waited for the right time to strike.

Like I said I will admit that there is no fear in Jedi and a Jedi in SWG now can go beating up people in Mos E and nothing bad happens. This should change and there should be things in place to make Jedi a powerful but hard profession to play.

The whole game is from the expanded universe. Cool points to the person who can tell me where the AV-21 first showed up, it was not in the movies.

Callaway · 07-18-2007, 12:28 PM

If other jedi are around or in hiding, why does Obi say, "That boy is our last hope."

And then Yoda says, "No there is another."

This clearly means jedi are erraticated. Obi says earlier that ALL the jedi were killed and he is the last of them. You would think he'd know if others were alive.

Spare · 07-18-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Callaway

If other jedi are around or in hiding, why does Obi say, "That boy is our last hope."

And then Yoda says, "No there is another."

This clearly means jedi are erraticated. Obi says earlier that ALL the jedi were killed and he is the last of them. You would think he'd know if others were alive.

No it does not, good catch but I will explain why this does not work.

At the end of Episode 3 when Yoda and Obi-Wan are walking through the jedi temple looking at the carnage Yoda tells Obi-Wan to go after Anakin because he is not powerful enough to take on Darth Sidious. That task was reserved for yoda. Which he failed but this exchange was proving that some jedi are more powerful than others. Midichlorian levels determined how powerful you would be. Sidious was a Sith Master with not only life experience on his side but we have to assume a high midichlorian count to beat yoda in a force lighting contest.

Plus in Epi 3 Obi and Yoda fought their way into the temple for only one reason and that was to turn off that beacon to draw all the jedi back. It would be silly to fight their way back to turn this off if they thought they were the last 2 jedi left.

Fast forward to Episode 4 when Luke meets Obi-Wan for the first time. In that conversation Ben says this

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan

A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.

All but extinct tells me even in the movies Obi Wan beleives that Jedi are still around. They are not hanging out in Mos Espa having a drink at the bar but they are out there in hiding. Like Ben most people would have refered to their hermit jedi as "That wizards just a crazy old man" and not known they were jedi.

Like I said tho playing a Jedi in this timeline should be hard and right now SWG does not capture this fear. We do not see many Jedi in the movies but based on lines from the movie its safe to say they were out there but in deep deep hiding.